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But here is the dark note, the sad note. As I said at the beginning when I described my teenage despair over the prospect of death, all of this is doomed to destruction in the hate death of the universe. As the universe expands, it grows colder and colder. Eventually all the stars will burn out and there will be no light, there will be no life. The stars will collapse into dead stars and black holes, which then may dissolve eventually into a thin gas of radiation expanding into the endless darkness and the cold recesses of space. And this is not science fiction.
This is the way it's really going to be if God does not exist, if atheism is true. So on the atheistic story of life, in the end it's a tragedy. There ultimately is no hope, there is no purpose, which we are realizing everything is doomed to destruction. What about multiverses? Right. In each multiverse you will have that thermodynamic demise of that universe within the multiverse so that each portion of the multiverse will become increasingly marooned and isolated from other parts and will soon grow, well not soon, eventually grow dark, cold, dilute and dead.
So that ultimately that doesn't provide a means of escape wholly apart from the question of whether there really is a multiverse out there. Yeah, well of course if you have multiverses, I don't see any issue about multiverses being created or however it is coming into being on a temporal basis. I mean we know that our universe has a temporal basis, doesn't it? What is it 18 billion years ago or whatever? So, but you see, this is part of the problem. I think where we are divided is that for you there is a meaning to it all with a capital M and this is all important for you and this is how you put your perspective.
Whereas, do you like, I really am an existentialist. I don't have that comfort if you like. I think that if you want to say life is meaningless at some sort of level. However, I don't think, as I was saying, I don't think that means there's no meaning or anything like that. I just feel that we've got to recast the way we think and so even if you're right, for me, I would rather go my way than as it were say, well it's really important to get on side, you know, before it's too late.
So this is my problem is I just don't have that, well, what is it, censored divinist artist or something like that that Plantic is always going on about. So, but can you accept, I mean, as I say, I'm not an atheist. If anything, apophatic theology, it suits me that I can say that God is not Michelangelo's God, you know, holding out his hand to Adam and a lot of other things. I mean, obviously, but that's a meaningful statement. It's just like a human writ large because if he is, I don't know how the hell you could explain Heinrich Hitler, Heinrich Himmler. So for me, so much of it is just a mystery.
And without, well, of course, now it's going to come around without saying I'm a braver person than you are, Bill Craig. I am because I'm prepared to face up to, as it were, the abyss in a way. I don't really mean this in a nasty way. But I think you, as it were, took another path when you were 16 or however old it was when you were trapping up this girl in front of you. But you do, but Dr. Ruse, you are looking for meaning.
The whole point of this conversation and your life and asking these questions and studying the leaders of thought in all these fields, I believe, you know, is points to the fact that you are in one way or another, at least trying to get closer to something like the truth or get closer to being more right than you were wrong.
And so what is that direction if we were to extrapolate that direction that you seem to have dedicated your life to? Isn't that isn't that where you're looking for meaning? Isn't the isn't aren't you in the direction of truth when you're trying to do that? Aren't you because you are agnostic, but you are pretty religious in some ways, it sounds like, you know, I mean, it's hard to get out of this trap. I don't think that you are a man who says, well, it's all meaningless. I don't believe that that's you wouldn't be having this conversation. Well, just an interjection. When you call me Dr. Ruse, I kind of I feel terribly embarrassed.
The only people who ever called me Dr. Ruse was students who hadn't done their assignments. That would be me. That would be me. I've always been a hopeless student. And you look like the kind of student that I'd have trouble with. When I say, when I say midnight on Monday, I do not mean eight o'clock on Tuesday morning. That's me, baby. I come up with a thousand excuses. Yeah, I would like to make it clear that what I said about the ultimate hopelessness and purposelessness of an atheistic view is not meant to be an argument that atheism is false.
It may very well be the case that the truth that we're talking about is dark and tragic, but I think what this does go to show is the importance of the question. I don't think anyone can live consistently and happily within the atheistic framework of life because it would force you to regard your own life and moral decisions as ultimately meaningless and purposeless. But I think it underlines the importance of asking ourselves, well, which view of the world is true? Is a theistic worldview true or is an atheistic worldview true?.